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314 notesThis is actually insane of them to say considering that they are literally regurgitating what slaveowners in Essos say about her:
"Sweet?" Qavo laughed. "If even half the stories coming back from Slaver's Bay are true, this child is a monster. They say that she is bloodthirsty, that those who speak against her are impaled on spikes to die lingering deaths. They say she is a sorceress who feeds her dragons on the flesh of newborn babes, an oathbreaker who mocks the gods, breaks truces, threatens envoys, and turns on those who have served her loyally. They say her lust cannot be sated, that she mates with men, women, eunuchs, even dogs and children, and woe betide the lover who fails to satisfy her. She gives her body to men to take their souls in thrall." (ADWD Tyrion VI)
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Wed her or fight her; either way, I will face her soon. The more Quentyn heard of Daenerys Targaryen, the more he feared that meeting. The Yunkai'i claimed that she fed her dragons on human flesh and bathed in the blood of virgins to keep her skin smooth and supple. Beans laughed at that but relished the tales of the silver queen's promiscuity. "One of her captains comes of a line where the men have foot-long members," he told them, "but even he's not big enough for her. She rode with the Dothraki and grew accustomed to being fucked by stallions, so now no man can fill her." And Books, the clever Volantene swordsman who always seemed to have his nose poked in some crumbly scroll, thought the dragon queen both murderous and mad. "Her khal killed her brother to make her queen. Then she killed her khal to make herself khaleesi. She practices blood sacrifice, lies as easily as she breathes, turns against her own on a whim. She's broken truces, tortured envoys … her father was mad too. It runs in the blood." (ADWD The Windblown)
Dany antis often do replicate, word for word, what the slavers who fight her say, but it’s jarring to see it happen so openly!
The idea that Dany’s “internal sense” is thrown off because men sexualize her and objectify her and try to rape or brutalize her is victim-blaming her for the actions of men. It’s also reifying the trope of the “seductress/enchantress” femme fatale who lures men into her grasp, the trope that the very slavers invoke in their rumors about her. She is a teenage girl who has been exploited her entire life. How is it her fault that grown men are predatory toward her?
Not to put too fine a point on this but grown men are predatory toward other girls and women in the series too. Sansa is an obvious example, but so is Margaery. Her family schemes to marry her off three times. Arianne is also sexualized by multiple men around her, and her father made her feel like all she’d be good for is being a consort to some lord. Arya faces rampant threats of sexual violence throughout her time in the Riverlands and Harrenhal. For all that men are horrific toward Brienne for her gender non-conformity, men try to rape and exploit her too. Cersei is another obvious example, treated as a pawn and object by all the men around her, even when she’s Queen Regent. The way people talk about Melisandre and her “undue influence” on Stannis is yet another example.
Every female viewpoint character has to deal with entitled men trying to prey on them. And it’s not just the female viewpoints––it’s multiple girls and women in the series who deal with male predation and entitlement.
George is depicting patriarchy in its ugliest and most clear form. While he has been critiqued for going overboard, and perhaps there isn’t a clear historical consensus on just how downtrodden women in feudal medieval Europe were, patriarchy is, and was, a fact of life. A lot of what he depicts is accurate to the behavior of men.
What guts me, though, is that this demonstrates two running trends in the ASOIAF fandom with respect to Dany: first is of course the violent misogyny, the victim-blaming and slut-shaming, the scapegoating of Dany for how men treat her, but second is how people isolate Dany from the themes and tropes of the story. This redditor is acting like Dany is in a unique position of being exploited by men, when, as I demonstrated above, ALL of the female viewpoint characters are preyed upon by men, and MOST non-pov female characters in the series are as well. They have to isolate her like this to make a misogynistic, bioessentialist argument about how her trauma will lead to her going mad. That requires them blatantly ignoring that she is one of dozens of female characters in the series who deals with similar treatment from men.
It’s also blatantly false, because Dany calls out the men around her. From her very first viewpoint chapter, she’s suspicious of Illyrio and refuses to trust him. She stands up to her brother Viserys and later recognizes that he abused and sold her to Drogo. She explicitly calls Jorah out for trying to groom her and sends him out of her service when she finds out about his betrayal. She knows that both Daario and Hizdahr take advantage of her in their own ways, even though she loves Daario and marries Hizdahr to bring peace to her city. She fights back when Prendahl na Ghezn calls her misogynistic insults. She takes advantage of men’s misogyny by deceiving them (Kraznys) or using it to negotiate strategies (as she often does in her military and political councils). She is one of the most lucid viewpoints when it comes to recognizing patriarchy and male entitlement, and there is no indication that she’s been “befuddled” into thinking that the world will “worship her” because men sexualize her.






